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Maulana Shaykh Nazim’s Interviews
More revelations about the Chilean miners
(Two contrasting interviews by two major news channels, that took place a day apart)
1) Maulana interviewed by CNN
22nd December 2010, Wednesday
A’uzubillah himinash shaitan nirrajeem
Bismillah-hir Rahman-nir Raheem
Assalamu’alaikum wrh wbkt
(This interview was done by a cocky cynical newscaster, who interviewed Maulana from the studio in Turkey. He was uncharacteristically rude, and showed scepticism at what Maulana was saying. He refused to address Maulana – a senior four times his age – as Shaykh Nazim or Maulana, instead calling him very rudely throughout the interview, as ‘Nazim Bey’. His questions were unprofessional, his conduct unbecoming, and he gave a very poor representation of CNN as a whole).
Interviewer: How do people address you?
Maulana: They give me many imitated titles, even Shaykh is an imitated title, my name is Muhammad Nazim. I have no title, I am a simple person. We are seeking to be accepted by Allah as His servant.
Interviewer: Why do people come to you?
Maulana: They come to me because they are bound (tied-up), and they are asking me to untie them (from the bonds of ego, nafs, hawa and dunia). They are incapable of doing anything because they are bound. They come because they have a spiritual connection with us, and they feel a certain peace here. There are always two aspects to every human being – the material and Spiritual aspects, but in these times, people have little faith in Spirituality. So any incident that is taking place because of Spiritual power, they reject it completely!
This incident in Chile, highlights the existence of Spiritual prowess that is possessed by those connected with the heavens. Cynics and sceptics should ask themselves, how am I able to connect with people so far away in Chile, who are trapped so far underground? By physical means? Impossible. The only way such a relationship can occur, is by a Spiritual force that brings us to them. This group of trapped people were desperate, they were in despair, their situation was bleak, they had hope only in their Creator, God-Almighty. Only a miracle could save them.
It is true that the Creator can help the creation directly. But He has always created waselah, the means to an end. Allah assigns that duty to a servant who has been given the ability to hear them, to reach to them and to help them. People no longer understand this. The fact that the Chilean miners experienced what they did, is a proof that there still exist many Spiritual people in this world. People must realise that we exist in a world of possibilities, whatever you can imagine, may occur. Allah gives Spiritual powers to reach those in the lofty heavens, and those in the bowels of the earth.
There exists such a Spiritual power in every human being! We received news of the disaster both from the normal channels (like TV and radio) as well as through Spiritual channels. Instructions from the Spiritual world, were for us to help the trapped miners, even though these were not believers, as these were hapless human beings, praying desperately for salvation. When someone calls, we must respond, for they were asking from the Lord Almighty; any creature that turns his face to Allah for help, He will help them. When we sent our help, they witnessed it, whether in the form of visions or dreams. And so a bond was formed with these distant miners, and after their ordeal, they felt compelled to come and see me in person, as they were not versed in the language of Spirituality (and hence could not communicate in that manner, they only knew the physical world, and so they had to meet Maulana in person) and when they saw me, they froze, then they kissed my hand, they sat before me, and they wept tears of joy. They experienced a Spiritual familiarity with me, as if they had known me from the beginning of this world; they experienced a peace in our presence that they had never attained before. They had endured a very trying ordeal, they had come a very long way to reach here, it is not easy for people from that type of grinding poverty to come here, they had reached here with the help of Naqshbandi mureeds from Patagonia. Their struggle epitomizes the saying – if there is a will, there is a way!
Everyone has the capability to do Zikrullah. And everyone who remembers Allah, will fall into this Ocean of Love for Him. And once in that Ocean, you yourself becoming filled with love (you will no longer be a source of pain, suffering or harm to the creation). This is the century (the end of times, akhir zaman) in which people have no relationship with Spirituality anymore (as there is only widespread ignorance).
Interviewer: Why are you always joking, and so jovial?
Maulana: We have been given many bounties by Allah, (so we should be happy). I like to make people happy, there is already so much sadness and pain and suffering in this world, why add to that? Why not be someone who brings happiness, brings a smile to someone’s face? In our religion, the best action in Allah’s sight, is to make one’s brother happy! Make people happy, make people laugh, let them taste the peace, those are good deeds you should do. If you do this, then Allah will be pleased with you, and people are going to be happy with you too. You should never oppress people, you should not make people cry! So many are coming here with sad faces, black faces. Oh believers, is there no one to save you? If you do not believe that He can save you, then your ship will sink, and you will drown with it. So perk up, have hope and faith in Him!
(The CNN interviewer then abruptly and rudely, ended the interview.)
The Saltanat TV Team has lodged a complaint and protest at the shabby treatment of Shaykh Nazim by CNN. Maulana himself, in the next interview he gave below, lambasted the amateurish nature of questions posed by the CNN reporter, and said that he will not allow them to interview him ever again.
If you would like to watch the actual interview as it was shown on Turkish TV, and if you would like to leave a comment protesting their shameless and insolent treatment of our respected and revered elderly Shaykh, please click here and let them know how you feel! Imagine calling Maulana as Bro Nazim on National TV! Watch the video at the same link to see the young interviewer’s smug, I-know-it-all look, as he speaks to ‘Nazim Bey’.
This 23 minute interview in Turkish can be viewed only at www.Saltanat.org. Choose from the menu on the right, ‘CNN Interview 22.Dec.2010′. There is a CC button next to the Volume control at the bottom of the screen to choose choose subtitles in eleven languages, choose from Arabic, Bahasa Indonesia/Melayu, German, English, Spanish, Italian, Russian, Mandarin, Dutch, Italian and Turkish. Click the AD button at the top right-hand corner of the display area, for a live translation into English. During Live Suhbahs, the buttons at the top provide Live Audio Translations into other languages as well. Should the video no longer be there, please look for it under the video archives of the Saltanat TV site.
Saltanat TV is the Official Site of Maulana Shaykh Nazim that is sanctioned and approved by him personally.
2) Maulana interviewed by FOX TV
23rd December 2010, Thursday
A’uzubillah himinash shaitan nirrajeem
Bismillah-hir Rahman-nir Raheem
Assalamu’alaikum wrh wbkt
(I watched the telecast of the Chilean rescue last night on the Discovery Channel. The Documentary tried very hard to push aside any Spiritual role or Divine message behind this incident. They emphasized about the technology and ingenuity of the engineers as they solved the problems on the ground and braved difficulties to save the lives of the miners. Not one word was mentioned about what miracles the miners experienced or saw, even the scenes of each miner emerging from the capsule with the taweez, was craftily edited, so that not one frame of any miner wearing a taweez was shown during the hour long Documentary. Maulana tackled this matter most powerfully in the following interview, explaining that technology was not the reason for the miners’ survival. It was the Will of the Creator, and every blind sceptic must admit that many things that occurred throughout the entire ordeal, were beyond human comprehension.)
Maulana began by venting his disappointment at how the CNN crew had treated him. He said rightfully, that, if a TV station wanted to interview the Head Doctor in a Hospital about medical matters, they must send an interviewer who had some knowledge of Medicine, so that he could ask relevant questions and would know the medical jargon. In any field of expertise, the one interviewing must be familiar with the subject and terminology. Take for example surgery, karate, nuclear physics, and Japanese cooking – an interviewer who has no prior knowledge of those specific fields would make a fool of himself, and leave the viewers short-changed, which was exactly what the CNN interviewer did. He knew nothing about Spirituality and religion, and so asked nothing probing or informative for the viewers to learn. Maulana said, even if one knew nothing about the topic, at the very least, one must be polite and respectful; even in that aspect the CNN reporter failed miserably. Shame on him.
Interviewer: Why had the miners come here to see you?
Maulana: It is not easy explaining Spiritual matters because one needs to have faith in order to understand such matters. Perhaps some of them had seen me while in the mines, while others may have dreamt of me. Even if I were to tell you, that I was in the mine from the first day the accident happened, would you believe? Would the listeners believe me? It is the Will of Allah, so how can anyone say, “That is impossible!” People of the 21st century have no faith, they reject Spirituality, yet they cannot explain how I came into contact with these miners below the surface of the earth. From a material philosophy point of view, it can never be explained or understood.
The world had its eyes trained on this disaster. Everywhere, people watched and waited. In a cramped area about 25 metres square, in a desolate pit in the bowels of the earth unfit to support human life, they survived for 70 days. How?
They had no fresh air, and no channel for air, yet there were gusts of air that reached them, each time they felt that they were suffocating. How did that occur?
They were supposed to die of hunger and thirst, right? They had contaminated industrial water, unfit even for washing their skin, to drink. And they drank it for 17 days without anyone falling ill. They had little food, only two spoons of tuna in every 24 hours, yet everyone felt invigorated and full, with that meagre amount of food. How did that happen, if not for Divine Help descending upon them?
The miners were recounting a story, of three mountain climbers trekking up a mountain, and who had then become trapped at the top of the mountain. Hungry and thirsty, they ate the dead body of a fellow climber to survive. These were climbers out in the open terrain, trapped for a short time; yet they resorted to such an act to survive. So how did 33 starving men – at one point eating two spoons of tuna every 72 hours – not contemplate killing each other to survive, whereas they were in an enclosed stifling enclosure for 70 days? What kept them happy, contented, satiated and at peace? Technology? I think not. Without the unseen Help that He had sent, the miners would have long since attacked one another and they would have eaten each other in their unbearable hunger, until even the bones of the dead ones, would not have been found!
In such dreadful heat and stench, the men slept soundly, and later said that they woke up each day, strangely energised and vibrant, fresh and motivated. How did that happen? Technology?
The miners had experienced so many odd occurrences and unexplained incidents. Yet, the world is full of people who would turn a blind eye, and brush aside all these miracles as coincidences. People have no faith in Spirituality, they have no faith in God. It is He, the Creator of these men, who wanted them preserved and kept alive, and it was with His Will and Permission, that they made it out alive.
This miracle is a message from the Lord, to all of Mankind, be they believers or unbelievers. Anyone who rejects Spirituality, is below the level of animals. Today, Alhamdulillah, the miners believe in Spirituality, they believe in Allah Almighty. Those who had wanted to come to me, came because they had seen me there in the mines. They saw. They wanted to meet the Spiritual Master who had accompanied them through their ordeal, whose Spiritual Power they had seen.
None of the miners went to Tibet (to meet the Dalai Lama). None went to see the Pope. None went to any Christian priests or Jewish Rabbis. Or to any other Spiritual center for that matter. They came here, to this forgotten island, where a weak, old and unknown man, is staying. It was only His Will, that what happened in the mines, happened. It was He who wanted them to live, it was He who let them live! People are free to accept or reject it. Allah had sent them one authorised person, who was given the strength to go anywhere on the face of this earth, according to His Will. Such a person is given a material power and a Spiritual Power, he can accomplish any mission. They are friends of Allah, Holy people, and if somebody is Holy, that person has a connection with the Spiritual world. Such a one, endowed with material and Spiritual power, can, in the blink of an eye, reach Chile, Australia, or the South Pole. With His Permission, such a weak one can go anywhere, he can even walk on water like Sayyidina Isa (as).
One who rejects His own Lord who created him, such a person can never understand anything of such matters! Such people are at the level of animals, and they always think that they are something. People today reject the notion that they are weak. If indeed you are strong, why do you need to die, why don’t you live forever?
Listen, they would have all died on the very first day, if there was no heavenly suport for them. There was a miraculous happening. The miners were sent the Taweez and they were told to recite La ila ha illallah, Muhammadur Rasulullah so that they could be rescued. They took off the crosses they hung around their necks, and wore the Naqshbandi Taweez instead. Every miner emerged from the mine, wearing it!
So the message for today’s cynics/sceptics is this – if you can’t explain a strange occurrence, don’t just brush it aside. Think about it, it may just open your eyes to something very special. It is enough of a proof that two of the miners, from a distant land, came here. They embraced Islam, and they have been given Muslim names today.
Interviewer: We heard of a similar incident in China. There was a Turkish person from Turkmenistan, who was always being tortured by the Chinese authorities. Each time they electrocuted him, there would be an electrical blackout in the place, and this man would see you (Shaykh Nazim). We heard he came here to see you too later, after he escaped.
Maulana: Yes, he came, he is still here (at the Zawiyah below). You may interview him if you wish.
Interviewer: So many have come to see you, Shaykh Affendi !
Maulana: Those who can come, will come. And for those that can’t come (because of poverty, health, persecution etc), I will reach them.
Interviewer: When the miners came to visit you, what did they do, what happened?
Maulana: They kissed my hand, they sat in front of me, and they cried. And I said, “Ya Ghaaliban ghaira maghloob! Oh You who cannot be defeated! You have sent these two miners here, to teach the entire world, about Spirituality and Faith in You.” Oh people without faith, you must come to faith. This entire event was designed to destroy the unbelievers’ and atheists’ dependence on the materialistic world, the world of technology, for, all that happened cannot be explained, except by Spirituality. All those who stand on unbelief, have no foundation in life, they are dumb-founded when confronted with magical events like these. This show in Chile, is to destroy the bastions of disbelief. The miners are live witnesses to this historic event.
I know what happened in that mine. Under ordinary circumstances, no one would have survived, not even for one day. But Spiritual Power reached them, and kept them alive within that mine. Allah has taught the whole world, a lesson in faith, in belief in the unseen. At the end of this saga, the miners are here in Cyprus. They are not with any other famous Spiritual figures – the Pope, the Rabbis, the Priests, or the Dalai Lama. They are here, on this far-away island, to meet a weak old man whom they had never known before the accident. Why? Think about it.
(At the end of this Interview, Maulana was asked some questions about the local education system. Since the answers are irrelevant to the Chilean Mine Story, I have included Maulana’s funny take on the question, in the Comments section, of the Suhbah, ‘Higher Education doesn’t always lead you higher.’)